A humanist and Rajinder Singh Ji,
I agree with you both on that people in Amritsar are crook and thieves.
They have used religion only for politics and business.
You see a lot of fighting going on in Gurdwaras even in the west these days. If they were doing only for the sewa purpose, then why would it matter who is managing the gurdwaras.
Anonymous
I totally agree with Bhai Rajinder Singh Nijjar. The golden temple in amritsar is full of thieves that do very little for the common good of man.
I also agree with Bhai Rajinder Singh Nijjar in that one shopuld use their own Tribal names. In my experience i have found the so called religious people and especially the ones that just call themselves Singh.
ANd your threats just prove the point, you are threatening him for having a different view than yourself. Surely one must be a good person and encourage freethinking instead of being dogmatic regarding religion. You actually sound like a fundementalist, what you have to realise is that nothing is right and nothing is wrong. Please open your mind think about what is out there and how the only true religion is being good to one another regardless of beliefs. Religion is wrong and there is nothing in it uin reality and we should instead love eachother and think of god in eachother.
Bhai Rajinder Singhji,
You are talking rubbish! you will pay for this when the Jum Duth will come to kick your bare back ass whilst you are dragged by your pubic hair kicking and screaming!
> Always mention your tribal identity or caste.
What hypocracy! Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Amar Das Sahibji states "Hypocrosy is not devotion speaking! Duality only leads to misery!"||
I dont believe in tribalism as this is not the belief of my gurus but belong to the •••••••. My belief and caste, creed whateva you call it is Khalsa, nothing is more mighter!
Dasam Granth
it is not the writings of guru Gobind singh.there is some bani of guru Gobind singh in it.rest is all written by two poets of mathra namely ram and shyam.the chapters of ram avtar and krishan avtar have been taken by them from puran markande.chandi de var is also from the same epic.the battle between rakhshes and durga are taken from puran markande also.if you dont beleive it.go to india and find yourself the serial going on on t v . the battle between indra and mehkha sur or bhakha sur rakshash.this serial comes on t v every week.it is from puran markande.firstly devi devte type of stories are against guru Gobind singhs teachings and character then they are on t v if you don't understand anyother way.it is the work of ram and shyam who were the poets in guru Gboind singh's court.there is some writings of guru jee in the dasam granth,but major part is from these two people.
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there were no rakshash or devte.The greatest devta is Inder who was most corrupt person at that time, he went after any beautiful woman he found in his territory.the whole story goes like this.when the pen came into the hands of brahamans who were the rulers.they called the other competing rulers as rakshash.brahamans ruled in banaras which is called devte'srule there.the other rulers of ruhel khand which is west of ganges came to invade them and they were branded as rakshash by the brahaman pen which exists till today.most of the time the devta's lost and regained again through durga in their battles.there is no such thing as devte and rakshas.reply this and i will answer i
The Dasam Granth, was written by Guru Gobind Singh Ji, he wrote about how Akal (god) expanded himself to become Lord Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva.
He goes on to write in detail about the Chaubis avtar recounting the incarnations of Lord Vishnu, the following are the incarnations of Lord Vishnu that Guru Ji wrote about, with their mythological names.machch, kachch(ap), nar, narain, mohini, varaha, narsingha, bhaman, parasram, brahma, ruddhr, jallandhar, sheshmai, arihant dev, manu raj, dhanantar, sooraj, chandhra, ram, krishan, nar (arjan) , buddha, nehklanki (kalki).
Near the end of chandi charitra i, (Dasam Granth, written by Guru Gobind Singh Ji), occurs this well known shabad:
O Shiva (God addressed in the form of Shiva), grant me this boon,
that I may never avoid doing a good deed,
never fear the enemy when I go into battle,
but surely go on to victory;
that I may teach myself this greed alone,
to sing only of thy praises.
and when the last days of my life come,
I may die in the mighty field of battle.
He spoke the following lines of gurbani : ‘Like the water in ocean and the waves in rivers, we will merge with you, o lord. when the soul becomes one with Brahma we assume the universal role of air.why need we come back to this world ? Birth and death occur according to gods will.When we realise this mystery of god’s will, we will rest in peace.’
Chaubis avtar makes up a large part of the collections of writings by guru gobind singh ji known as the Dasam Granth. Chaubis means the number twenty four and avtar means incarnations. this large work written mainly in the braj language retells the stories of the twenty four incarnations of vishnu in glowing terms, using forceful words with telling effect, to arouse the martial spirit of the people laying dormant then.
in the Dasam Granth Guru Gobind Singh ji wrote stories of Sri Ramchandra ji, Baghwan KrishanJji and Durga Mata Ji, Guru ji revered and respected them.Chaubis avtar, lists twenty four avtars, of these, the accounts of Lord Rama (864 verses) and Lord Krishna (2496 verses) are the longest.
THE FISH, MACHH AVTAR THE TORTOISE, KACHH AVTAR THE LION, NARR AVTAR NARAYAN AVTAR
MAHA MOHINI AVTAR THE BOAR, VARHA AVTAR NAR SINGH BAWAN AVTAR, THE DWARF
PARAS RAM BRAHAM AVTAR RUDR AVTAR JALANDHUR AVTAR
VISHNU BUDDHA AVTAR ARHANT, THE JAIN MANU RAJA
DHANATAR, THE PHYSICIAN SURAJ, THE SUN CHANDRA, THE MOON RAMA AVTAR
KRISHAN AVTAR NAR, ARJAN BODH KALKI AVTAR
At the time it was the custom to recite on the eve of battle the praises and warlike deeds of the brave, so that the hearts even of cowards might be inspired with eagerness of the fray.
on that account Guru Sahib Ji maintained fifty two bards to translate the Mahahbarat, the Ramayan and the gallant achievements of Sri Ram Ji and Bhagawan Krishan ji and others. At the end of Ram Avtar is found a special blessing on those who hear and those who sing this story, and thanks are given to god for help in completing the story of Sri Ram Chander Ji
The tales of the Devis and Devtas (deities) are all written with Hindu-Sikh philosophy in mind, and they all fall in with sikh thought.
GURU GOBIND SINGH JI FULFILLED THE DESIRES OF PANDIT SHIV DUTT SITTING MEDITATING ON THE BANKS OF THE RIVER IN PATNA BY APPEARING BEFORE HIM IN THE FORM OF SRI RAM CHANDRA JI, it is therefore not appropriate to assess the works of saints and prophets with the yardstick for ordinary men of the world. These visions were there to console the Sikhs and to show them that Guru Ji was with them at all time.
SHABADS ON HANUMAN JI INSIDE GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI, THIS SHABAD IS BY BHAGAT KABEER JI IN RAAG BASANT ON PANNAA 1193
PMIFQ JN MWQY PIV- at - PURWN ]
PA(N)DDITH JAN MAATHAE PARRIH PURAAN ||
THE PANDITS, THE HINDU RELIGIOUS SCHOLARS, ARE INTOXICATED, READING THE PURAANAS.
JOGI MWQY JOG IDAWN ]
JOGEE MAATHAE JOG DHHIAAN ||
THE YOGIS ARE INTOXICATED IN YOGA AND MEDITATION.
SMINAWSI MWQY AHMMYV ]
SA(N)NIAASEE MAATHAE AHA(N)MAEV ||
THE SANNYAASEES ARE INTOXICATED IN EGOTISM.
QPSI MWQY QP KY BYV ]1]
THAPASEE MAATHAE THAP KAI BHAEV ||1||
THE PENITENTS ARE INTOXICATED WITH THE MYSTERY OF PENANCE. ||1||
SB MD MWQY KOAU N JWG ]
SABH MADH MAATHAE KOOO N JAAG ||
ALL ARE INTOXICATED WITH THE WINE OF MAYA; NO ONE IS AWAKE AND AWARE.
SMG HI COR GRU MUSN LWG ]1] RHWAU ]
SA(N)G HEE CHOR GHAR MUSAN LAAG ||1|| REHAAO ||
THE THIEVES ARE WITH THEM, PLUNDERING THEIR HOMES. ||1||PAUSE||
JWGY SUKDYAU ARU AKURU ]
JAAGAI SUKADHAEO AR AKOOR ||
SUK DAYV AND AKRUR ARE AWAKE AND AWARE.
HXVMQU JWGY DIR LµKURU ]
HANAVA(N)TH JAAGAI DHHAR LA(N)KOOR ||
HANUMAN WITH HIS TAIL IS AWAKE AND AWARE.
SMKRU JWGY CRN SYV ]
SA(N)KAR JAAGAI CHARAN SAEV ||
SHIVA IS AWAKE, SERVING AT THE LORD'S FEET.
KIL JWGY NWMW JYDYV ]2]
KAL JAAGAE NAAMAA JAIDHAEV ||2||
NAAM DAYV AND JAI DAYV ARE AWAKE IN THIS DARK AGE OF KALI YUGA. ||2||
JWGQ SOVQ BHU PRKWR ]
JAAGATH SOVATH BAHU PRAKAAR ||
THERE ARE MANY WAYS OF BEING AWAKE, AND SLEEPING.
GURMUIK JWGY SOEI SWRU ]
GURAMUKH JAAGAI SOEE SAAR ||
TO BE AWAKE AS GURMUKH IS THE MOST EXCELLENT WAY.
IESU DYHI KY AIDK KWM ]
EIS DHAEHEE KAE ADHHIK KAAM ||
THE MOST SUBLIME OF ALL THE ACTIONS OF THIS BODY,
KIH KBIR BIJ RWM NWM ]3]2]
KEHI KABEER BHAJ RAAM NAAM ||3||2||
SAYS KABEER, IS TO MEDITATE AND VIBRATE ON THE LORD'S NAME. ||3
Gobind Singh Ji wrote a prayer to Lord Shiva called ' DEH SHIVA BAR MOHE' this prayer is still recited in khalsa schools today and a film has been made with this title recently.
Gobind Singh Ji based his own appearance on Lord Shiva, ie the long hair tied in a knot, the kara, kanga etc. look closely at lord shivas photos, that is the reason Gobind Singh Ji wore a blue paagh
He also wrote a prayer to Durga Mata to come to him in the form of a shield and sword to fight off the Mughals ?? this prayer was called 'Chandi ka vaar'??
Dasam Granth dedicated page 169 vol 2 onwards to Lord Krishna and the avataars
SIKHS AND HINDUS ARE ONE AND THE SAME : DASM GRANTH, WRITTEN BY GURU GOBIND SINGH JI :
The Dasam Granth Sahib
The Dasam Granth, was written by Guru Gobind Singh Ji, he wrote about how Akal (god) expanded himself to become Lord Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva.
He goes on to write in detail about the Chaubis avtar recounting the incarnations of Lord Vishnu, the following are the incarnations of Lord Vishnu that Guru Ji wrote about, with their mythological names.machch, kachch(ap), nar, narain, mohini, varaha, narsingha, bhaman, parasram, brahma, ruddhr, jallandhar, sheshmai, arihant dev, manu raj, dhanantar, sooraj, chandhra, ram, krishan, nar (arjan) , buddha, nehklanki (kalki).
Near the end of chandi charitra i, (Dasam Granth, written by Guru Gobind Singh Ji), occurs this well known shabad:
O Shiva (God addressed in the form of Shiva), grant me this boon,
that I may never avoid doing a good deed,
never fear the enemy when I go into battle,
but surely go on to victory;
that I may teach myself this greed alone,
to sing only of thy praises.
and when the last days of my life come,
I may die in the mighty field of battle.
He spoke the following lines of gurbani : ‘Like the water in ocean and the waves in rivers, we will merge with you, o lord. when the soul becomes one with Brahma we assume the universal role of air.why need we come back to this world ? Birth and death occur according to gods will.When we realise this mystery of god’s will, we will rest in peace.’
Chaubis avtar makes up a large part of the collections of writings by guru gobind singh ji known as the Dasam Granth. Chaubis means the number twenty four and avtar means incarnations. this large work written mainly in the braj language retells the stories of the twenty four incarnations of vishnu in glowing terms, using forceful words with telling effect, to arouse the martial spirit of the people laying dormant then.
in the Dasam Granth Guru Gobind Singh ji wrote stories of Sri Ramchandra ji, Baghwan KrishanJji and Durga Mata Ji, Guru ji revered and respected them.Chaubis avtar, lists twenty four avtars, of these, the accounts of Lord Rama (864 verses) and Lord Krishna (2496 verses) are the longest.
THE FISH, MACHH AVTAR THE TORTOISE, KACHH AVTAR THE LION, NARR AVTAR NARAYAN AVTAR
MAHA MOHINI AVTAR THE BOAR, VARHA AVTAR NAR SINGH BAWAN AVTAR, THE DWARF
PARAS RAM BRAHAM AVTAR RUDR AVTAR JALANDHUR AVTAR
VISHNU BUDDHA AVTAR ARHANT, THE JAIN MANU RAJA
DHANATAR, THE PHYSICIAN SURAJ, THE SUN CHANDRA, THE MOON RAMA AVTAR
KRISHAN AVTAR NAR, ARJAN BODH KALKI AVTAR
At the time it was the custom to recite on the eve of battle the praises and warlike deeds of the brave, so that the hearts even of cowards might be inspired with eagerness of the fray.
on that account Guru Sahib Ji maintained fifty two bards to translate the Mahahbarat, the Ramayan and the gallant achievements of Sri Ram Ji and Bhagawan Krishan ji and others. At the end of Ram Avtar is found a special blessing on those who hear and those who sing this story, and thanks are given to god for help in completing the story of Sri Ram Chander Ji
The tales of the Devis and Devtas (deities) are all written with Hindu-Sikh philosophy in mind, and they all fall in with sikh thought.
GURU GOBIND SINGH JI FULFILLED THE DESIRES OF PANDIT SHIV DUTT SITTING MEDITATING ON THE BANKS OF THE RIVER IN PATNA BY APPEARING BEFORE HIM IN THE FORM OF SRI RAM CHANDRA JI, it is therefore not appropriate to assess the works of saints and prophets with the yardstick for ordinary men of the world. These visions were there to console the Sikhs and to show them that Guru Ji was with them at all time.
SHABADS ON HANUMAN JI INSIDE GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI, THIS SHABAD IS BY BHAGAT KABEER JI IN RAAG BASANT ON PANNAA 1193
PMIFQ JN MWQY PIV- at - PURWN ]
PA(N)DDITH JAN MAATHAE PARRIH PURAAN ||
THE PANDITS, THE HINDU RELIGIOUS SCHOLARS, ARE INTOXICATED, READING THE PURAANAS.
JOGI MWQY JOG IDAWN ]
JOGEE MAATHAE JOG DHHIAAN ||
THE YOGIS ARE INTOXICATED IN YOGA AND MEDITATION.
SMINAWSI MWQY AHMMYV ]
SA(N)NIAASEE MAATHAE AHA(N)MAEV ||
THE SANNYAASEES ARE INTOXICATED IN EGOTISM.
QPSI MWQY QP KY BYV ]1]
THAPASEE MAATHAE THAP KAI BHAEV ||1||
THE PENITENTS ARE INTOXICATED WITH THE MYSTERY OF PENANCE. ||1||
SB MD MWQY KOAU N JWG ]
SABH MADH MAATHAE KOOO N JAAG ||
ALL ARE INTOXICATED WITH THE WINE OF MAYA; NO ONE IS AWAKE AND AWARE.
SMG HI COR GRU MUSN LWG ]1] RHWAU ]
SA(N)G HEE CHOR GHAR MUSAN LAAG ||1|| REHAAO ||
THE THIEVES ARE WITH THEM, PLUNDERING THEIR HOMES. ||1||PAUSE||
JWGY SUKDYAU ARU AKURU ]
JAAGAI SUKADHAEO AR AKOOR ||
SUK DAYV AND AKRUR ARE AWAKE AND AWARE.
HXVMQU JWGY DIR LµKURU ]
HANAVA(N)TH JAAGAI DHHAR LA(N)KOOR ||
HANUMAN WITH HIS TAIL IS AWAKE AND AWARE.
SMKRU JWGY CRN SYV ]
SA(N)KAR JAAGAI CHARAN SAEV ||
SHIVA IS AWAKE, SERVING AT THE LORD'S FEET.
KIL JWGY NWMW JYDYV ]2]
KAL JAAGAE NAAMAA JAIDHAEV ||2||
NAAM DAYV AND JAI DAYV ARE AWAKE IN THIS DARK AGE OF KALI YUGA. ||2||
JWGQ SOVQ BHU PRKWR ]
JAAGATH SOVATH BAHU PRAKAAR ||
THERE ARE MANY WAYS OF BEING AWAKE, AND SLEEPING.
GURMUIK JWGY SOEI SWRU ]
GURAMUKH JAAGAI SOEE SAAR ||
TO BE AWAKE AS GURMUKH IS THE MOST EXCELLENT WAY.
IESU DYHI KY AIDK KWM ]
EIS DHAEHEE KAE ADHHIK KAAM ||
THE MOST SUBLIME OF ALL THE ACTIONS OF THIS BODY,
KIH KBIR BIJ RWM NWM ]3]2]
KEHI KABEER BHAJ RAAM NAAM ||3||2||
SAYS KABEER, IS TO MEDITATE AND VIBRATE ON THE LORD'S NAME. ||3
Gobind Singh Ji wrote a prayer to Lord Shiva called ' DEH SHIVA BAR MOHE' this prayer is still recited in khalsa schools today and a film has been made with this title recently.
Gobind Singh Ji based his own appearance on Lord Shiva, ie the long hair tied in a knot, the kara, kanga etc. look closely at lord shivas photos, that is the reason Gobind Singh Ji wore a blue paagh
He also wrote a prayer to Durga Mata to come to him in the form of a shield and sword to fight off the Mughals ?? this prayer was called 'Chandi ka vaar'??
Dasam Granth dedicated page 169 vol 2 onwards to Lord Krishna and the avataars
Sonyo udaas no hoya karo tusi..punjabi.net te aya karo
CHOR MANDLI CELEBRATES 400 ANNIVERSARY OF AD-GRANTH.
Harmandir Sahib for Bhagti Marag’s Sikh Sewadars and Akal Takht for the
Dubda Rehat Nirmallae Sants make this Complex the most Holy Complexes in
the world. Kes Garh Sahib Takht is after this Complex. This Complex
used to be in Jerusalem’s Holiest of Holy Temple that was destroyed in
70 A.D. because they were not producing fruits for God – Parable of Vine
press.
Today, the same is true of Harmandir Sahib, which is dominated by the
First Class Crooks of the world.
During the lives of our Satgurus, both Khatris and Brahmins were
exploiting simple minded people against Satgurus and Sachae Paatshahs so
much so that Satguru Angad Dev Ji was hated by the sons of Satguru Nanak
Dev Ji, Prithvi Chand became the staunch crook enemy of Satguru Arjun
Dev Ji, etc culminating in banging the very Door of Harmandir Sahib in
the Face of its last Owner, the Sixth and the last of the series of six
Satgurus Satguru Tegh Bahadur Ji. If one has common sense, SURTI, then
if the then crooks did not honour our most honoured Satguru Tegh Bahadur
Ji when it did not have gilded roof, then how could a Gurmukh Sikh be
welcomed today?
No wonder the most crook and corrupt ex-Chief Minister Badal and his
family who made their mark by offering jobs for money alongwith the most
crook Temple organisation are heading the celebrations? Relatively
Gurmukh Chief Minister Captain Arminder Singh is not allowed anywhere
near the Celebrations. Saropas from such CHOR MANDLI is for the fools
such as the people of Jatt tribe (KAUM) who support Badal’s SAD
political party and his family. Corrupt officials employed through jobs
for bribes scheme having Licences to take bribes extort those very Jatts
the most whilst the town Khatris escape that net.
What do you expect of the future of this holy city? The British put the
Border between the two most corrupt towns Amritsar (AMRITSARIYAE ANDAR
SARRIYAE) and Lahore, where Satguru Nanak Dev Ji instructed his
messenger who went to buy gold jewellery for a marriage that do not stay
overnight there as they would fleece you. Chandu Khatri whose surname
these Khatris never want to disclose and rather make it known that he
belonged to a Brahmin tribes to Lahore and also those Khatris who
started to kill the followers of Satguru Nanak Dev Ji also belonged to
Lahore.
Against all these odds, the stupid Jatts are supporting this crook
organisation that is making Sikhs of beard and turban and not of the
Sikhi or spiritual knowledge. Such fake Sikhs were wiped out during the
Partition of 1947 when Lala Tara Singh Malhotra Khatri played a major
role in the division of the Jatt land, the Punjab by proclaiming Sikh
Panth as Sikh Kaum or tribe.
Now, we have Lala Dr.Manmohan Singh Kohli befitting the calibre of Lala
Tara Singh Malhotra and we should expect the great War between India and
Pakistan that would pull this Complex down forever as it is not needed
in Satyug.
Remember that as all the Jatts are not stupid and so there are DEVTA
Khatris too, who should wake up and support the Sikhi of Satguru Nanak
Dev Ji.
Remember that DHUR KI BANI being received through revelations, it cannot
be written down in ink on paper but Satguru Arjun Dev Ji recalled all
the Saints and past Satgurus to dictate their own Verses, SHABDS,
themselves to Bhai Gurdass Ji so that these clever Khatris may not say
that Satguru Arjun Dev Ji himself dictated it. That is why copied
version of Bhai Bano Ji was called a Khari Birr and Sikhs were told that
only blind to spirit people would read such copied BIRRs.
The present Birrs are highly corrupt and the Original One at Kartarpur
has been altered to the heart’s content of the Khatris. For details of
alterations and how some pages were washed clean of the ink please read
the Book by Prof. Jodh Singh Ji who went through the whole Birr in the
presence of a German Professor whilst it was in the custody of Deputy
Commissioner of Jalandhar pending dispute. May be our present day
technology would bring out the original script. Prof. Hew McLeod’s
works are worth admiring but these crooks oppose his views as they do
mine.
Let us see if the present crooks would be able defeat the Kartarpuri
crooks in procuring the Original Birr at all. They might produce a fake
duplicate hand written Birr to avoid handing over the Original.
Remember that in Kalyug, you have to go by your own ANTTAR SATGURU
called “innerman” in the Bible as each one of us has to give his own
account to God.
Thus, ANTTAR SATGURU ARADHIYAE JEEVA JAPPAE NAAM is the True version.
Ch. Rajinder Nijjhar Jatt,
Always mention your tribal identity or caste.
Separate Fake Sikhs of beard and turban from the Real of heart
Sikh is a NAADI ROOP and not the BINDI ROOP.
ANTTAR SATGURU ARADHHIAE JIVAA JAPPAE NAAM
Read my Punjabi Jattki Book, "KAKHH OHLAE LAKHH"
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http://www.nijjhar.freeserve.co.uk/sikhism.htm
http://www.nijjhar.freeserve.co.uk/pbook.zip
About the Dasam Grath,
When the British ruled India, they saw fit to remove the Dasam Granth (through various legislation), (and some say the Sarb-loh Granth) from the Gurudwaras, because they feared it may incite the Sikhs to take up the sword again.
The Dasam Granth, with it's vivid and poetic descriptions of battle, do really inspire one to rise up and take on oppresors. This is what the British feared.
Other, means of surpressing and using Sikh martial tradition for the British administrations own benefit, was to appoint there own masands, encourage caste division (in Gurudwaras, Army recruitment, Government posts etc).
Indeed a very effective means of controlling a people, as we have seen by some of the divisive, caste based nonsense written on this forum which is present today.
oeeeeeee panchoddddddd pakistanio APNIA PANA DI BHUND MARO SALEO ---
IK HOR PANCHOD SALA HARAMA KUDA etteh Sikh Kuria de bare bolea de ohde Gardan MEIN KATO GA .. samajjao murakhoo.........!!!!
haramjade...Why do not u get tried of 'pudi-sucking' your known sisters that u look on others sisters' bodies...
Waheguru, i beg forgiveness for discussing somethin esle than Adi Granth here..but these Sulleh just do not refrain from insulting others women..Please save them, O my Lord, from burning in hell.