American converted Sikhs - Nakli adhyatmik ja sache Sikh?

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Whenever you go around big cities of North America one sees here and there, a turbaned white woman, and at times with white Sikhs.

They present a strange picture not always or necessarily very friendly. One does not see regular Punjabi Sikh ladies dressed up and turbaned like these ladies who appear as if they are wearing a false mask.

Are these converted Sikhs real or they are just pretenders who are merely protesting their birth religion or just doing something innovating to get more attention?

Please write your opinion?
By dash on Monday, August 07, 2006 - 12:27 pm:

Dear Shareen Gill,

My question is, which you love the most,Sri Guru Granth Sahib or the guy involved? I am not telling you that it's wrong but it where you stand. For example i am in a relationship with a non Punjabi but i am not concern about that cause i am a khalsa and a gurusikh and at the beginning of the relationship i have said this to her that" If we ought to be married then you have to accept the Sikhi. It's a tough decision at first but this is my love to my guru that comes first before anyone. So it said in the maryada that a amritdhari sikh may only marry an amritdhari sikh. But the decision should come from the other person also that cannot be forced. I know how great the love is but it's where the principle of your life stands. Because only principles stand where the man falls. Make a decision and stay with it. Its not enough to put trust in guruji when at first you dont follow his commands. After all this is the real game of love. Other love is just a drop of water compared to his love. Think again...it's good if you can show him the way of a sikh..then let him decide.....


By Anonymous on Sunday, August 06, 2006 - 9:12 am:

For me sikhi was never suppsed to be associated with ny caste or race. The word Sikh means literally the Learner. The person who beleives in the teachings of Shri Guru Granth Sahib and devotes his/her life i trying to learn and implement the to the teachings of Our Guru i.e. Shri Guru Garanth Sahib into his/her life for the betterment of humanity is Sikh plus he/she shows his daring attitude by wearing the Five K's fr these represent the visible mark of Sikh's faith for Sikhi isnot about practising anything in hiding like cowards or opurtinistics.


By CHARDI kALA on Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 3:30 am:

Hello ji,

The devotion and the Sikh spirit I have seen in the white Sikhs can put any native SIKHS to shame. Is'nt it ironic that these new Sikhs choose to wear the 5ks and speak in Punjabi whereas our young Sikhs act kike wannabi kales and speak English all the time...I guess we need quality and these white Sikhs are playing a great role in doing so.. According to me, they are better Sikhs than the non white Sikhs I have seen..

WWF


By Anonymous on Tuesday, January 04, 2005 - 11:47 am:

i saw and spoke to a white sikh at the golden temple..she was quite friendly, but even though i spoke full english she kept trying to speak punjabi with me..which was kind of annoying..

but i do think its a good thing that our religion and the words of our gurus is spreading..

so wat if they are white, the thing that matters is there sikh..


By Rob Van on Sunday, December 12, 2004 - 3:32 am:

Hello all.

Robert Van here
Iam a white non sikh from Canada, I am dearly in love with a sikh woman now and have been for 5 years, she feels the same for me however Iam not a sikh. Must I convert in order to Unite with her? I do know a little of Sikh scripture and if it is true that a daughter born of a sikh father must marry a sikh then what of Equality:Everyone is equal in God's eyes; whatever their caste, creed, or gender.
I will offer my own life for her's and I will certainly convert if I must but is this really the answer? Are Sikhs and non Sikhs not equal in all aspects of life? Please help me to find the answers.
I realize it may just be easier to convert however that doesnot mean her family with accept me.


Rob Van


By SAS on Thursday, November 04, 2004 - 3:39 am:

READ and you willl learn the truths of Islam. Judge afterwards:

http://.FAITHFREEDOM.ORG



By PCJS on Thursday, November 04, 2004 - 1:45 am:

Singh,

What is Sikh population worldwide...?


By Singh on Tuesday, November 02, 2004 - 11:06 am:

According to Guru Gobind Singh Ji, one cannot be a Sikh without taking Amrit. Being born in a Sikh family does not make you a Sikh. It is your character, following Guru Granth Sahib Ji and Sikhi way of life that makes you a Sikh. Guru Ji says "Pratham Rehat Yeh Jaan, Khanday Ki Pahul Chakay" which means first step is to take Amrit and only then a person can become a Sikh. there are no excuses because Guru Ji Himself took Amrit and only then He took the name "Singh" and became Sikh. This is why He is called "Guru and Chela". Sikhs are supposed to marry Sikhs only. Read the Rehatnamas first then discuss the Rehat. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh


By HashUK on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 8:52 am:

Hi

I am a White Sikh, brought up by a converted white father and a christian Italian mother! So, I was in fact "born" Sikh.


By uneedmynamey on Wednesday, October 06, 2004 - 10:37 am:

Yogi Bhagan populized the Sikh Religon a bit in New Mexico. But otherwise, there aren't really many "white sikhs" becuase Sikhism is not very popularized thorughout the world. Though we sikhs are not like muslims and christians and have never forced any people to convert If people believe in our religion we let them convert. They convert on their own will, and most of them are very good sikhs. But I state agian there are few people like this there are more sikhs cutting their hair and even some converting to christinaity.


By PCJS on Tuesday, October 05, 2004 - 12:34 am:

Hi Sharen, well I guess converting is actually taking amrit and wearing turban with long hair. It’s probably like being born-again Christians. I am pretty sure, there are ceremonies in all religions that officially tag you as a person of that religion. The only ceremony I see among Sikhs is taking amrit that officially converts someone into a Sikh. We were born into Sikh families. So, we didn’t have to go through this to be called Sikhs. But I assume for someone of different faith, it’s probably necessary to take amrit, wear turban and have a long beard.

However, I completely disagree, based upon my own personal opinion, that he should be forced or somehow obligated to convert. You are old enough to make your own decisions and you should know if your love for him and his love for you is deep enough for you to live happily ever after.

It doesn’t seem like that you are an amritdhari Sikh. If your parents have accepted you, why would you think they would not accept him? If your parents have problem with him being White, then yeah they could have a problem not accepting him but if it’s matter of religion, I don’t think it’s going to be too much of a problem as they didn’t expect you to be an amritdhari.

The main thing is that you do whatever seems reasonable and discuss it with your parents.

Good luck to you in making the right decision.


By Sharen Gill on Monday, October 04, 2004 - 1:46 pm:

hello everyone,
Sat Sri Akal...

I have a question to ask all punjabi Sikh's out there and give me an oppinion.

I'm in love with a White American man who is a doctor working in Arizona, he loves me very much and he's willing to convert himself to be a sikh. He want my family to accept him and he's not gonna give up easily on me...

I love him too much now and kinda proud of him that he's willing to learn about our religion and be part of it...he just need some time.

Now my question is, is it a must for him to be a pure sikh with a turban and long beard?

Many of our own punjabi boys have uncut hair...and they still have the faith and belief of the sikh beliefs. Is it a crime, if the man i love converts and has no turban.

Its not he's not willing to do it, he'll do anything for me... but i would prefer him just the way he is now...and i hope my family can accept him.

Do you think its wrong anyhow for someone to convert and has no turban and long beard?
What if this person is willing to learn the religion beliefs, language and way of life...
its not the way he looks, its the person inside him....do you agree...

I need some points of view here
please guide me and my love!

Thank You


By Wild Ash on Monday, August 02, 2004 - 1:24 pm:

Most of these white or so called westener sikhs are worthy and true followers of Sikh faith. They are indeed enlightenend and attracted to the sikh way of life and they follow it to their best ability and understanding.

If you care to ask them - ask them and they will tell you why? teachings of the gurus, power of the Nam and shabad, spituality of the faith, the dress and the living code etc. all has appealed and touched them in truly devoutional manner.

They represent the best that Sikh, Punjabi and Indian culture has to offer.


By One on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 2:21 pm:

Seems to me that these "white Sikhs", or whatever you wanna call them, are more dedicated and true to Guru Granth Sahib than most of us Sikhs of Indian descent. I hardly think that they seek attention or are in any way protesting anything.

They have seemed to find, in most cases, the true meaning of the Khalsa and we should take them as an example. As we seem to be ashamed and afraid of growing our hair, they fearlessly wear the turban that our gurus taught us to defend, even at the price of our life.


By Singh on Friday, June 04, 2004 - 4:20 am:

lol dunno i aint saw a white sik b4 can u giv me contact 2 1?


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