General dyer sucks..I hope he remains in hell till the hell freezes over.
part 1 annies reply
annie
"i dont know why u cant get this through ur thick head that i dont hate all hindus"
thick? who cant seperate 20 year old revenge emotions from practical modern day reality me or u? look back to your posts they wreak xenophobia , ask any witness here! i vulanteer :-)
annie
" all i said is that i dont like the hindian goverment"
who demanded hindus shud not be in punjab? whos threatened hindus with dire consequences in the future? ur brave statement was leashed directly at hindus , not just the gov as if hindus and the gov have gathered together, although most hindus are treated far worse than sikhs r.
annie
"favortising hindus over others"
80% of hindus are poor , living in squalors, destitute, homeless, with no access to even clean water or latrines, which is a lot worse than most sikhs or minorities i can think of.
annie
"specially over those who have contributed more than 80% to hindia's independence."
but what have u done for india? u aint done jack all. who deserves the respect those who died for it back then or those who live off the name like u? even if your father went to jail for india and you in comparison start making terrorist threats like " hindus get out of punjab", or " i promise i will take revenge" do you think anyone is going to give u special treatement?? how do u fit into this 80% category?? hindus deserve to live in punjab like u do, if u dont like it dont expect anyone to listen to u. those sikhs were proper sikhs, your living off the name and insulting it, and using it for ur own elitist propaganda or shud i say land grabbing technique??
annie
" and i dont need to go anywhere out of my house"
if you cant face reality halucinate about khalistan when peopl dont want it where else u ment to go? if not in that wide world to see with ur own eyes how things have changed?
annie
"because i live in a country where i get all the information that i need"
just 100 years ago canadian indians ( mostly sikhs n punjabis) were treated like animals, and lived in an aparthied system, if you actually witnessed that u wud be a different annie a desi annie instead of a canadian one whos forefathers were treated like shyte by canada. its funny how u forgot that but remember 1984. now go and wave the cananda flag.ajah putt shabaash be face up the leaf loves u.
annie
" but look at u despite not only ur house but also leaving ur country hasn't helped u from being who u r."
lol im born in the uk, i never left india. i am who i am due to the kirpa of Vaheguru, our Father annie for both sikhs and hindus, my father and yours who loves us equaly both.
annie
"always interfering and misterpretting the meanings of gurubani "
but the sggs is for hindus and muslims to, so how wud i be intefering? kabir ji sed he preaches to hindus and muslims, so why you denieing the verse? is that cos u dont like what the sggs reads cos it conflicts with your khalistani ideology? lol. if i gave u the page number, with the link to a sikh site and you cant be arsed to check it, what else can i do to proove to u i havent misinterpreted?? and before u accuse me as i stated earlier why dont u proove me wrong and show me where exactly i have misinterpreted? if your accusation holds water proove it. if not, your the one who is twisting slandering and maligning text i have qouted and ur the one doing the paap. its been proven much to ur disgrace gurbani is not for sikhs alone.
annie
"just to put someone down"
nopes, i was hoping you read gurbani to understand what knowledge sggs holds for u to become a sikh rather than claim u are whilst following colonial victorian ideology planted by the Empire.
annie
"and as for ur challenge i repeat i will goto hindia"
u wont even come and meet me let alone go to india lol. so put ur action s where ur mouth is , until den dont chat big words if you havent fulfiulled dem.
annie
" and i dont need u t elling me when or how to go wait and watch."
then y was u telling me to wait and watch for 6 times previousl? lol when i say it back its as if i have trodden over ur civil liberties, its ok annie i dont bite. come to london lets have tea and biscuits.
annie
" i m not afraid of anybody but waheguru "
then why do u deny wahegurus verses in sggs? why r u threatening wahegurus children hindus that there will be revenge? why r u threatening wahegurus sons and daughters in punjab that they shud not be there? if you cant see waheguru in each human then you cant see waheguru at all. u deny wahegurus love and diversity for mankind.
annie
"now if just standing up for my people who have been killed for no apparent reason means hating on hindus, thats ur way of thinking and i cant help it"
nopes uve used that as a justification to launch xenophbic verbal abuse at hindus. ur statements on hindus speak volumes of emotional hatred its not easy to contradict and shapeshift from "just standing up for my people" . waheguru says all creatures are from Him, so where does this " my people" come from? sgpc? If general dyer had sikhs killed in golden temple should i hate the british years later and what it stands 4? i live in the uk, i have british friends, my girlfriend is half british half sikh, my father in law to be is british, this country has provided me with a living, given me the opportunity to develop with freedom, i meet british men and women all my life who enrich my experience with them. if i hold in my brain general dyer and the fact he had sikhs killed, does that mean life stops ther? yes i dislike the british planted sgpc takeover of sikhi, doesntmean i will hold british and the values it stands for responsible for summit some gora did 100 years ago.
part 2 annies reply
annie
" and u can call me an isi agent i have no problems with that because ur calling me that is not going to make me one so please fill this whole message board calling me an isi agent i have no problems with that"
twisting my words dear! i sed "i could call u an isi agent but i havent have i?" uve already convinced urself that i have, y do u feel so paranoid debating? uve called me rss many times, i dont understand, u havent given me a reason, its like im supposed to accept what u say, i say summit as an example and im the one guilty of insulting u. i sense intolerance and fanaticism, im sure waheguru will not be pleased with that annie.
annie
" i m not wasting my time arguing iwth a senseless person like u anymore"
would help if you could argue a useful point for a right reason. :-)
annie
" hwo can not even understand someone's emotions for their people"
emotions feelings, depression anger, will not help create khalistan dear. please think practically, ur emotions r clouding your judgement of reality today in punjab. i too feel angry and sad that sikhs have nbeen mistreated, it is my wish that the gov treats sikhs with greater respect. but ur emotions are also linkd to failures of sikhi as a collective people, sikhs are not the same as they once were, each man for himslef, if your leaders who u elect r useless, u gotto do summit urself practically for sikhi. which is why seva, gurbani reading, and taking amrit and trying to be a gud sikh will help u and sikhi progress much further than crying about hindus or india here. go away and learn summit do summit productive that will benefit sikhi and the community.
annie
"so for once and all let me tell u i dont need a certificate from u to prove if i m a sikh or not."
a sikh = learner of sggs. if u deny verses of sggs twist them around accuse them of being misinterpreted without going to a gianni or a sikh site to find out and contradict it then how can u be a sikh? ur actions defy that of being a learner. instead by accusing verses of misintepretation u urself are guilty of insulting sikhism most holiest text, you are accountable in ur after life to dharm rai and to the akhal takhat. For ur own sake take the verse to ur local gianni page number included, get off ur backside, u can spend hours on the net, so go gurdwara and do some productive research my pyari nikki panji.
annie
"i mean make up ur mind sometimes u say i m hindu just because my mother was born into a hindu family and then u say i m not a hindu and now u r telling me i m not a sikh"
lol. having hindu sikh genetics in regds to haveing hindu sikh relatives and pracvticing sikhi and hinduism are different ballgames. although u may have the genetics , ur not practicing religion obviously exposed through ur ignorance, if ur not practicing then how can one call u a sikh? i have sikh genetics, big deal! dont mean im a sikh. btw its already been exposed that u were lieing about urmother being a hindu,so enuff of that.
annie
" like i told u u r noone to decide that i will leave it upto that one power that actually has the right to decide for sikhs, my guru."
u deny everything the guru says in sggs.n im not making sense? loll
annie
" i may not be a comlete sikh yet because u have to work really hard at it"
there r no brownie points for being a sikh or grades. u become a sikh when u accept sggs as ur guru and the verses it contains which u do not and accuse them of being misintrepreted, your a apostate heretic and a hypocrite who insults sggs.
annie
" but whats the definition of a hindu?"
lol ur the one who stated in ur earlier post the name hindus is given by muslims so u shud know. if ur reffering to sanatan dharmi then that person is a sanatani who lives and stands by eternal dharm aad sach jugaad sach hai bi sach naanak hosi bi sach, not by mere chance or being born into it. il send u more info on that with pleasure annie.
annie
"before bothering to worry about other people's faiths and their definitions look at ur own stuff first"
annie previous post look up lol. who sed sikhi and hinduism are different for me when half of my family r sikh half hindu?? just like 33% of the non jatt sikh population who are interblended mixture of sikhs and hindus in punjab. theres no " ur religion my religion " to me the world is one. for u it isnt one its all about this 20 year old grudge. so baby looks like ur gonna have to ethnically cleanse us to, our existance must embarras ur purity.
annie
"where are u guys going? killing innocent muslims in gujrath"
sikh militants killed 1.4 million innocent muslims in 1947. and 80 000 innocent hindus in 1980s, where are you guys going now? do u sriously think waheguru will bless a khalistan when you praise killings and revenge assasinations on people who belong to one faith or another??? waheguru wants u to see god through humans but u dont so u aint gonna get anything back. Waheguru is all knower he can read your heart annie no one can hide.
annie
" then burning a poor australian missionary alivewith his two sons"
how many european engineers ( swiss, german, american,) working on global projects in punjab , and export tamil workers did sikh militants bomb n burn in the 90s?
annie
"give these things a thought. before putting us down try to bring urself up.... "
u cud do the same, but u outright deny the holocausts committed by your co religionists while i admit them outright as wrong. since when have i brought myself up? uve obviously forgotten how hindu buss passengers were taken out and shot point blank range by sikh militants. that dont mean im gonna hate sikhs or sikhi. in fact i love sikhi and sikhs in general, but i like most of the world will not see eye to eye with revengeful fanatics nor will waheguru. so before u talk about God waheguru question ur motives :-)