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How can we do that ? which seems to be Impossible?

Dear Punjabi friend

We like ever before are hounded and humiliated by few people. We are provoked on daily basis. For what ? For a little piece of land somewhere in Himalayas. Trust that Punjabis are being victimised in all this Kashmir, kargil, Gandhar game, and we are the suffers and we are paying the heavy price for all this.

We are silent watchers of our own destruction while few dozens misled guys keep plundering our life.

Are we going to let it go?
Are we going to continue watch as if it was a cricket match. Laya ball soot oye. Bhajjo te run banao.

Listen we are not playing nor winning. We are losing.
We have been brushed aside. Our people are the ones who lose their lives for dream of few.

THis is utter nonsense and eccentricity which is imposed upon most Punjabis.

If you get out of the mystical veils, the shrouded mysteries of politics and dramas of conspiracy you will see that we Punjabis are being fooled.

IF we keep watching we will be soon wiped out.

Please wake up and think ! Your views are important and needed.

You are free to write your feelings and comments.

Do not get excited with religious frauds.
Be yourself. Genuine spirituality and praying to God has nothing to do with religions.

Be a true Punjabi !!
By the dominator on Friday, February 20, 2004 - 4:17 pm:

how dumb are u people.why r u fagets so racist.fukin ••••••••.maybe i will come to your place and burn down your fukin church.


By SpiCk 4 LiFe (65.95.162.30) on Saturday, November 29, 2003 - 4:41 pm:

Truss me dumbasses , dont even try to dis muslims, because im south american muslim and u punjabi sluts with ur 300,000 members or maby even less couln't even test muslims if u wanted to, same with hindus none of u girls can test us were world wide , and more than a billon stong, if anything u should thank us for being the only ones with enough balls to stick up to the U.S and fight them, u guys run away like pussies with ur tails between ur legs, dont hate on us because we always screw u guys up, know ur place cause if u indian punjabi and hindu wimps even tried to war with the islamic nation ur dealing with south america, the westindies, north america, phillipens, vietnam, china and africa and more than i can name so screw all u and know that u better bow down to pussies. P.S dont even say that muslims smell or need deordorant or stink, because to south americans were gald we dont live like dogs all cluttered up in mississauga and brampton like u own the place, to us, u all stink and need to shower and im talking about those stinky punjabi binduheads


By Anonymous on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 11:48 am:

I suggest you all stop attacking and fighting each other. nothing is going to take place this way; there are good muslims and bad muslims, good sikhs and bad sikhs; good christians and bad christians; good hindus and bad hindus. Good and bad among all people.

I was a hindu but i accepted the teachings of a person whom i can call as my wahe guru to guide me and be with me. it doesn't mean i hate my parents who are hindus or my own flesh or blood brother. even though i been treated horribly just for beliving in something else. Guru nanak was a wonderful man, perhaps many of today's punjabis dont care much. by fighting each other, or hurting each other, you can't remove bad people out. they will keep comming, it keeps going. i suggest, please ignore those who seem to pick on your respective religions etc., and let each person decide what he wants to believe in, wether he wants to be part of india or part of pakistan, each person decides that. if somene in your home decides to be independent, you don't chain them to your home, do you? if your wife wants to leave you, you don't chain her and beat her up. she leaves. same way if kashmiris want to decide whose side they want to be, let them decide. let each invidiual decide. not some king or others. they know the best. india is made of different ethinc groups and races, not just punjabis or north indians. there are mongloid east indians and
south indians. we also are equally indian as punjabis too. learn to forgive. forgivness is not cowardly. it is the bravest act that perhaps not even the most ferocious warriors can perform. It is to forgive your enemy and move forward. Buddha said, after death, we will go to whatever truth there is. wasn't he true? There is some truth, we all will face it after death. so why face it with a mouth that insults others? if we are not able to forgive those who keep blabbig or yapping, then how do you expect God to forgive us? it's not philsophy, it's mere common sense. you all talk of God, you all seem to believe in some form of dvinity. imagine if Guru nanak had read this forum, Jesus Christ had read this forum, Mohammed nabi had read this forum, Buddha had read this forum, would they react the way most of you have reacted to each other? i know of a indian man, who came from a hindu family, that believed in Christ, he starved in the streets of a foreign country without food, it was a african muslim that fed him and gave him strength to live not just in food, but in friendship and in strength and in care. and today that man is grateful to his hindu family, and to that muslim african man, and to Christ, for all peace he has recieved in his life. that man is me. and i write it proudly. i found good in all people, and bad among all peoples too. attitudes, however, differ from country to country.


By OpenEyes on Friday, July 18, 2003 - 6:55 pm:

Wow, why doesn't everybody take a chill pill or two and take the following advice to heart:

1. Educate yourself - whether it means going to school of some sort or just becoming self-taught like some of the great minds of the world. Not only will you be able to understand better and get over your ignorance, but when you write something, it will make sense and people will be able to comprehend it. That is because you will be able to better organize your thoughts, not to mention use correct spelling and grammar!

2. Worry about yourself, your family, and your loved ones. Make peace with them and start being a good person in your own personal life before you even think of slinging mud on a site like this, and criticizing others for their ways of life. Are you perfect, do you live in peace and harmony with your friends and family? If you do not, then it is no wonder that you have all this time to make war with others by venting your personal dissatisfaction with life here.

3. Life is a journey, and it is a short one. Calm yourself down so that you can enjoy what you have. Pray to whomever brings you peace, be it Allah, God, Krishna, or the tree in front of your house. Once you have peace, perhaps you will find love and tolerance... and the world will be a better place for it.

4. Most baskets have a bad apple or two. Do not be one of them.

Thank you!


By Anonymous on Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 8:47 am:

I have a question for those of you who are sihks. I
have just purchased a home in a new
neighborhood and two sihk families have moved
in next door to one another. My question is this.
One family seemingly has taken care of
themselves and has a couple of relatively nice
cars. The other household (I believe are
decendants of the neighbors) has a beat up old
truck and three junky never been washed
vehicles. How do I and the rest of the
neighborhood deal with that without offending
them but getting across that those kind of vehicles
project the wrong image to visitors and bring
down the appeal of the neighborhood. ???
-confused


By peacefullifeis on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 8:39 am:

Here is suggestion for two groups you should inquire about and join their programs if you are truly interested in Indo-Pak peace relations.
1 - Seeds of Peace (mainly for students)
2 - People to People International (student and adult programs)
you can find info on either group on the web. PtoP has chapters in many countries all over the world -currently in Bangalore and Mumbai, however, none yet in Pakistan - but YOU can contact them to find out how to organize a chapter in your area.

Also, the PtoP chapter I belong to in Delaware, USA is holding a program on June 19th 7-9pm for people to find out about Seeds of Peace and get Indo-Paks interacting in our area (which is close to Phila, SJersey and MD). If you are interested get me direct at peacefullifeis••yahoo.com for directions.

I tried posting this info several times in several locations earlier but appears somehow that didn't happen but even if you are not local or don't have time to rearrange schedules to come I hope you will contact them on your own!


By F-ALLAH on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 5:35 pm:

FREE THE WORLD NUKE THE ENTIRE MIDDLE EAST....ALLAH DOES NOT EXIST YOU FREAKIN MORONS! THERE IS NO GOD! YOU ARE ALL SO FREAKIN STUPID YOU USE GOD AS AN EXPLANATION AND EXCUSE TO PROTRUDE YOUR MENTAL INCAPACITIES. RELIGION IS BULLSHIT YA FREAKIN RETARD. CHURCH IS A PLACE FOR CHILD MOLESTERS TO GATHER


You are naive and un-educated surely.
Punjabis are not Arabs you foolish man.

Punjabi Network


By Reader Man (12.211.116.80) on Tuesday, February 04, 2003 - 10:53 pm:

so much hate. Try using your energy on working together to try & fix the things you can, try tolerance,understanding, and perhaps some good old brotherly love. I understand that it might be a little to complicated,but try it anyway.


By practical (142.146.232.70) on Monday, December 16, 2002 - 12:12 pm:

One of the posters talked about some many muslim converts. How many women converts do you know about? Islam is a religion that degrades women and human rights. They see their religion as the only religion and condone violence and forced conversions from the "holy" Quran. All of these converts are drawn to your religion because they have the same profile. They are men who have troubled pasts, history of rebellion and a noted lack of respect towards women and authority. I would love to find some stats to the number of converts to Islam that were women or families. I would be surprised thatif 0.5% of all converts fell under theses categories.

In terms of another poster who used Hindus and Sikhs under the same "drape" calling them cow lovers; the only cow lovers are hindus. Sikhs believe in ONE god that is the god of all. We beleive in ALL religions that believe in ONE GOD. We respect all religions and believe that god sent his "prophets" all over the world in his name. Unlike Mohammed, Sikh gurus preached gods name and not their own.

The problem is that Sikhism is ahead of its time. Its views on gender equality, racial and ethnic equality and religious equaltiy are issues that have only recently been adapted and implemented in the west. I respectfully CHALLENGE anyone to do their research on SIKHISM and show me where there is a deficiency or impracticality in its beliefs. If you are going to be childish, vulgar or give an uneducated answer, then your probably shouldn't respond.


By simone on Monday, October 14, 2002 - 3:55 pm:

Why do all you Muslim fucks live in Toronto?

Why the hell do you have to turn my country into a •••• pit like the one you came from?

All Hindu's and Sihk's are my friends, because they hate you even more than I do.

Not only are you are you a bunch of short, skinny little turds but you all smell like crap. When I have to stand next to one of you in the elavator I want to vomit! Don't you know what deoderant is? I'd gladly give you some if only you would use it!


By Me!!! on Sunday, June 23, 2002 - 7:02 pm:

to the bastardly punjabi hindu..

U're so filled with hatred..it's coz u feel inferior and u're a failure...u hindus are nothing...ur religion is based on pure porn and u are terrible racists..! the mughals shd've wiped u off of the world's face! u're dirty,filthy,hateful,and violent...i believe that if a muslim comes to beat u up u'll do it in ur pants! u people just care for money and slavery...that's it...corrupt behaviour is a part of u...that's y India is filled with disease and crime! U dare threaten any of my muslim brothers or sisters again and u'll be sorry...i'm indian..but b4 that i'm a muslim...i'd rather live with muslim pakis than with u horrible hindus...i hate india coz of u!!! if u're a man gimme ur name and adress and I'll send u my cousins who work for a secret service and they'll do to u and ur family what u hindus did to our sisters and brothers in gujarat! the day will come when we muslims will regain our glory and will cleanse the earth of leeches like u! u're such trash..so narrow-minded and ur world is darkness itself! go to hell...that's where u ugly hindu deserve to be!


By army99 on Thursday, May 30, 2002 - 1:30 am:

love for all hatred for none


By army99 on Thursday, May 30, 2002 - 1:35 am:

what is the position of Sihks on forming Khalistan in the punjab. Jaswant Singh says Sihks should remain part of India (SO DO ALL OTHER SIHKS IN INDIA). However a lot of brothers outside India want independance and a free state.
ps pakistan should not interfere.


Well you have chosen a belligerant alias

Pakistani military strategy of dividing Punjabis in India failed n will never succeed. NEVER.
Because they dont understand Punjabis.
Punjabi network


By A Punjabi Hindu on Wednesday, March 27, 2002 - 5:12 pm:

Ha...Ha...you fukkin pakistani turd, you ask the question if Canada gave Quebec the right to seperate then why cant India do the same...think you fukkin diesesed cousin licker, imagine if a country like France comes along and arms,trains,finances terrorists from Quebec just because they share cultural,lingustic,religious similiarities, what would happen then mother fukker? When did Sikhs burn your temples? Either your Madrassa education is not up to par with the rest of the world or the fact that your parents are really cousins is effecting your brain cells...you cunt sukker!!!If your so adamant that you want to fight then put up your email address and I swear on the Holy Ganges that I will rip your fukkin head from the rest of your body....you wanna meet me? Come on down, son of a bitch...you fukkin cunt sukkin cousin marrying mother fukking dildo!!!


By •••• HINDUS/SIHKS on Monday, March 25, 2002 - 8:05 am:

YOU PEOPLE ARE ALL STUPID! U SIHKS AND HINDUS NEED TO GET SHOT ONE BY ONE U FUCKIN COW LOVERS. I HATE U GUYS SO MUCH THAT ME AND MY FRIENDS DRIVE TO MISSISAUGA, WHERE ALL U HINDUS AND SIHKS LIVE, AND TRY TO RUN U DOWN! WE SHOULD ROUND UP ALL U SIHKS AND HINDUS AND FUCKIN BURN U TO HELL DAMN FUCKERS. UR COUNTRY IS SO SCREWED UP; UR PROUD OF THE FACT THAT U HAVE 1 BILLION PEOPLE? HA , NOW TRY FEEDING ALL THOSE 1 BILLION PEOPLE! WORLDS LARGEST DEMOCRACY????? FUCK THAT!. KASHMIR IS A STATE THAT WANTS TO SEPERATE, JUST LIKE HOW QUEBEC WANTS TO SEPERATE FROM CANADA. CANADA LET THEM VOTE IF THEY WANTED TO STAY OR NOT. MAYBE U SHOULD USE THAT DAMN EXAMPLE AND APPLY IT TO HEAR INSTEAD OF WASTING 1 BILLION RUPPEES AND TRYING TO BOMB US. GOD U PEOPLE ARE SO STUPID. BEFORE I GO I NEED U PEOPLE TO ANSWER SOME FUCKIN QUESTIONS:

1) WHY THE HELL DO ALL U FUCKIN SHIKS LIVE IN MISSISAUGA?
2) WHY THE HELL DO U HAVE 1 BILLION GODS? IF ONE PERSON CAN NAME THEM ALL ANSWER THIS FUCKIN QUESTION
3) WHY THE HELL DO U PICK ON MUSLIMS FOR. IS IT BECAUSE U THINK THERE WEAK. HA! GOOD LUCK BUDDY!
4) IF U THINK I'M A MUSLIM I'M NOT. I'M A CHRISTIAN FROM CALCUTTA AND MY PARENTS MOVED TO TORONTO BEACUSE INDIA WAS SHIT. THEY BURNED OUR CHURCHES AND KILLED US. NO NOT THE MUSLIMS U FUCKIN SHIKS AND HINDUS. THE US PORTRAYS MUSLIMS AS THE BAD GUYS!

I KNOW THAT THIS PROBALY GET POSTED BUT WHO EVER READS THIS
U CAN COME HERE AND SUCK MY BIG BROWN ASS
GO TO HELL FUCKERS!

Dear friend

What you have is a serious Pakistani disease which is being propagated in India that became Pakistan for a long time.

You are victim of this artificial and super imposed culture that only produces hate, hurt and feelings of superiority/inferiority complexes and all this flowery talk you display here.

You must stop and get rid of this viral infection of religion from you, the bacteria of nationalism which and you will be cured.

You are burning in a hell created by you and your innocent friends who have made a cocktail of pakistan kashmir the prophet and slamabad talk and made you drink too.

BE NORMAL and calm and you will be able to see with some clarity. May Allah give you some knowledge.


By anonymous on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 - 6:26 am:

azzzzzz
please tell me what and how much is written about God and and to be godly in Quran. it is a social and administrative book more thananything else.


By AZZZZZZZz on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 11:45 pm:

Excuse me all the people that slag off muslims and islam are the people who dont really understand the purpose of life. I agree with all the people that everyone should live in peace, but when their are people back stabbing and hurting each other behind their backs how can this be acheived. People only associate Islam with Arabs and Pakistanis. Hiwever the truth about Islam is that it is a universal religion, hence why people such as Malcolm X, Yusuf Islam, Mohammed Ali , Chris Eubank, are all muslims. Yusuf Islam once a Christian Hym writer now recites the Quran, you may remember him being the one singing "morning has broken, like the first morning, blackbird has spoken like the first bird" Why ahve these people become muslims is upto you to find. This does not mean that Islam propogates hatred for other religions, as our parents and ancestors know that all hindus, muslims, Sikhs all lived in peace. The reason for all this corruption and devistation, is due to our own mentality and thinking, if we never supported our leaders who cause so much shit inthe first place none of this would have happened. However its always the minority that rule the majority, because the majority dont have a brain. If all the people in Pakistan and India decided to live in peace, then whis to stop them, the government, against a billion people, I dint think so, its our own self inteligence which has been cirrupted by media, and by the people who finance it and the governments. If we were able to understan the problems we ourselves cause then maybe we have a chance. There are many things I would like to say, however this is no the time nor the place, a face to face discusion is more appropriate.


By U KNOW ITS TRUE on Friday, November 30, 2001 - 4:17 am:

GOD, I AM SO SURPRISED AT HOW RASCIST U PEOPLE ARE. SO I HAVE DECIDED IT IS ABOUT TIME I WOZ TOO. I AM A MUSLIM GAL, AND IF I GOT THE CHANCE I WOULD FUCKIN BATTER THE SHIT OUT OF ALL YOU FUCKIN SHIT HEADS OUT THERE. ISNT IT ABOUT TIME U GOT URE HEADS OUT OF YOUR SMEELY ARSES AND LOOKED AT THE REAL WORLD? U R WHITE WANNA BES WHO DON'T KNOW SHIT BOUT NOTHING. U CAN'T CRITICISE OTHER CULTURES WHENN YOU SPEND YOURE FUCKIN LIVES NEGLECTING URES. GOD IM SO PISSED OFF. I KNOW TONS OF INDIAN SHIT HEADS AND ALL THEY EVER DO IS LICK WHITE ASSES. THEY WILL NEVER STICK UP FOR THEMSELVE, OR OTHERS, THEY WOULDN'T STICK UP FOR THEIR MUM IF SHE WOZ GETTIN RAPED. DON'T DIS MUSLIMS, COS DEEP DOWN IN YOUR HEART U KNOW WE R TONS BETTER THAEN U, & THAT U'S IS A PIEC OF SHIT . TINK BOUT DAT U KNOW ITS TRU.


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